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S2EP88. A dive into the making of a magical, weird & surreal Life, Art & Career w/ Alexandra Gallagher, British Artist

A ward winning artist Alexandra Gallagher is a British multidisciplinary artist, who’s work takes the form of collage, street art, prints, photography and painting.

Gallagher’s work celebrates the surreal and sublime. ­Between the realms of memory, dreams and experience, her work looks beyond our subjective limits and often tells a story of inner imagination and thought.

Often working within a series, each piece is visceral and organic, the artist never knowing how each piece will transform. 

Exhibiting and selling both across the country and internationally, she has been nominated for a number of awards. Shortlisted for the Zealous X, she was awarded the Saatchi Showdown Surrealism Second Place Winner and the Secret Art Prize Runner Up Winner 2016. Her recent achievements include being a London Contemporary Art Prize 2018 Finalist and being shortlisted for the Rise Art Prize.

“If New York’s Lower East Side went Rococo, it’d manifest as Alexandra Gallagher’s sleek, trippy, succulent collages. The British artist wields Photoshop like a technicolor sword, slashing up images of flora and fauna into compositions framing subjects sylvan as Kate Moss with backgrounds evoking equal parts zodiac and mod design. Flamingos worthy of Miami gardens cavort alongside landscapes worthy of Kurt Vonnegut, but both share Gallagher’s common touch of the metallic, the lucid, and the unabashedly chic.

It’s Leda and the Swan meets punk rock, which is perhaps why Gallagher lists Artemisia Gentileschi as an influence, despite the seeming gap between their works. “The inspiration behind my work is our experiences as women in western society … but I didn’t want to put something out there that’s obvious or brutal, I wanted to create something beautiful out of something ugly, but still give a voice,” Gallagher says. Her myriad layers of symbolism, feathers and faded limbs produce a synesthesia of both synthesizers and harpsichords worthy of Artemisia’s admiration – from one woman who wielded formidable swords to another” 

(Written by Lauren Amalia Redding)

Follow Alexandra: 

https://www.alexandragallagherart.com/
https://www.instagram.com/alexgallagher80/?hl=en

Charuka Arora, Founder of Arts To Hearts Project

https://www.instagram.com/charukaarora/

www.charukaarora.com

Arts To Hearts Project

https://artstoheartsproject.com/

www.instagram.com/artstoheartsproject/

AUTOMATED TRANSCRIPTS

00:00.00
charukaarora
Hello Alexandra how are you I’m doing well and thank you so much welcome to the arts too. Hearts park I’m so excited save you know, quick story i.

00:02.85
Alex
I’m good. Thank you you.

00:12.93
Alex
Thank you Thanks for inviting me. It’s good. It’s good to chat.

00:36.22
charukaarora
The strangest were how I found your work. Um a couple of years ago I you know someone shared um I was in this group where you know people were just few waters and things stuff like that and someone shared a screenshot.

01:08.33
Alex
Yeah.

01:14.46
charukaarora
Of I think ah, a space or a gallery which had like a circular painting and you know had these this so big circular painting installed and I could see the butterflies. You know the snakes and this flora and fauna and all of that and.

01:41.67
Alex
Now.

01:50.62
charukaarora
So last we go um, can you and at that point I was also doing a little little bit of cluework close to that and someone said oh your work looks like this and will you be able to make something similarly for me and I was like you know, um. Let me get back to you and the none thing I did was I found out who the artist was and if there was a way this person could reach out to the artist and I went under the internet and I did the whole Google reverse and all of that and I found it was your work and then I felt like oh my god I felt like I reached this. This beautiful mystical surreal world and since then I have been hoped onto your work since then and I’m so glad I have a face to your work. Finally.

03:10.55
Alex
Oh that is brilliant. Oh I love that I love that I get that though with other artists like I someone will randomly post something from another artist and then you kind of deep dive a little and you’re like how have I not come across this artist before there remains him.

03:34.48
charukaarora
Yes, yes, yes, yes.

03:48.13
Alex
And yeah I think um things like Pinterest and Instagram and stuff like that are fantastic for that because you’re always just new art. So I love that other people are doing that with mine. It’s a bit mind blowing. It’s a bit weird. But yeah I love it.

03:58.56
charukaarora
Um, now.

04:17.30
charukaarora
Um, your work is also all over the internet by the way. Pinterest.

04:22.70
Alex
I Yeah like yeah I kind of yeah I kind of I think that’s probably because of the way I’ve started my career like I didn’t do it The usual way everybody else seems to do it was like you know University College getting trains and. Then go into galleries and stuff I Just um cause I had kids early on so I did it all through the internet. Yeah I had my first who is now coming up to 23 when I was oh I got pregnant. Yeah yeah, and my second in.

05:11.16
charukaarora
Oh my God really.

05:26.22
charukaarora
Um, are you oh my you look 23 um you I swear.

05:38.49
Alex
Yeah, she’s 17 in a few weeks oh I love that thank you? Oh thank you so much? Yeah, no I was ah a teenage mom so I had kids early.

06:04.46
charukaarora
How old were you when you had your None one.

06:10.29
Alex
My first I was pregnant with her when I was 18 I just turned 19 when she was born and then I was 25 with my second so early Mama but yeah, now they’re.

06:18.82
charukaarora
Oh God Wow. But you still now I need to ask you? What’s the secret behind this the secret to your youthfulness because you look like at 23 right now I would have never guessed that believe me.

06:45.31
Alex
Ah I think it’s probably because I’m a bit of a hermit. So I don’t see the sunshine and obviously living in the Uk it’s always gray. But yeah, in fact, to 50 if I do go out.

07:13.40
charukaarora
See.

07:21.35
Alex
Like slather that on and the sunscreen but 6 probably so. But yeah I do get a lot of that comment if I grow out with my daughter. My eldest daughter and they’re like oh it’s my mom and they’re like what oh my god so.

07:24.44
charukaarora
Oh my God Oh my God yeah.

07:52.40
charukaarora
Oh my God I’m still I’m still digesting this information I may take I may absolutely take some time about that I saw I you know also not only.

07:52.61
Alex
Ah, probably be disappointed when people stop saying that.

08:23.60
charukaarora
That you are so tech- Friendly You like you’ve really built this amazing um career on the internet and like you know I think you’re one of the artists that I really I find have a very strong present and very solid like like you fairly build something.

08:52.90
Alex
Thank you.

08:57.94
charukaarora
And I always imagine that um I always thought that you would be this young I mean of course you’re still young because look at you but like I felt like you would be like this typical millennial or probably like you know who has these who’s. Who has these knowledge of sex marketing and then you know that’s a total like total surprise.

09:32.10
Alex
Yeah, I’m just winging it when I when I started like using I actually started like using Facebook and things like that because it was a friend of mine. Who had a book published and a editor was like I need to join Facebook and Instagram can you be None of my friends and I was like oh really like I’m not sure I don’t know what I’m doing oh please please? So I did and then I thought oh this might be a good way to share my work you know and I look at other people. So. Each time like I join a new app or something and I like discovering new people. Um and discovering what to do. But I am literally just winging it I have no idea what I’m doing to be honest and obviously it’s like ah you know years and years of mistakes as well like building it like. I started showing my stuff on the internet. Probably I think about ten years ago now when it was like really really bad work as well. Like really bad like you know what? you just don’t know what you’re doing but you just like it’s like when you show your mum your picture that you did at school and you’re like can I put it on the fridge now. Is it good enough to put on the fridge.

11:31.68
charukaarora
Ten years ago yeah um Yeah um, and your mom says no, it’s it needs to be framed and put into the museum today. Ah.

12:01.97
Alex
Put it on the wall and that that’s pretty much what I did yeah she would now she actually used to like if I did work for people like commercial work for companies and the stuff she did.

12:22.80
charukaarora
Yeah, yeah.

12:31.57
Alex
Has been in search with a few going. What are you doing with that after can I have it after I might stop doing that mom.

12:50.80
charukaarora
Okay, tell me firstly I am I’m now I’m also loving this hermet look of yours now that is none that you’ve already said but tell me how did you get into the arts. How did you start your journey.

13:11.73
Alex
And it’s gonna sound really cliche. But it’s something that I have done since I can remember it’s something I’ve always wanted to do and my dad was an artist as well. So I think I just kind of grew up with it. Yeah, he was an artist and E talk business and arts.

13:39.44
charukaarora
Surely.

13:50.67
Alex
In a prison and but he was practicing himself and yeah I think I I always grew up with the smell of oil paint and things like that and I have like a a bit of a competitive side which don’t think’s necessarily a bad thing but I’d always look at my dad’s paintings and be like I want to paint like that I want to paint better than that You know.

13:57.74
charukaarora
Oh wow.

14:16.56
charukaarora
Um.

14:30.50
Alex
And my dad bless him was always um, one of those people that would be like yeah you could do better like ah like do you like this? No you could do better try this instead and I think that always pushed me to to keep doing it but it’s what I’ve always said ever since been.

14:51.42
charukaarora
Um, and.

15:06.49
Alex
Little is I want to be an artist. That’s what the only thing I can really do as well to be fair like is create stuff and if I if I’m not I noticed when the children were small and I wasn’t pain seen I wasn’t creating anything when they were really small I just keep starting. Projects you know in the house decorating or you know a Pinterest project that never gets finished and I’m always like doing something creative. So yeah.

16:00.68
charukaarora
But um, did you? um you said you had your children quite early First question did you start your creative career before that or after having children. What were you doing around that time. Did you go to an art school.

16:09.91
Alex
I.

16:30.57
Alex
Yeah I I started I started and actually dropped out when and before I had my eldest daughter simply because I don’t think I was ready and I was more interested probably in having a good time.

16:36.70
charukaarora
But about that.

17:05.26
Alex
And partying and doing things I shouldn’t have been doing obviously being remember 18 um, and then I kind of settled down and I spent a couple of years and then when I was about 22 when I met my husband. He convinced me to go back to college. Um and do a foundation.

17:14.11
charukaarora
I think I.

17:41.97
Alex
Course in in the arts because he was like come on. You can do this and I was so scared I was absolutely terrified I was like I don’t know and he convinced me to it So I did a year of that and then I started to degree and then dropped out because it just I’ve I’ve learned as I’ve got older I’m not very good at keeping.

18:22.86
charukaarora
Um, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I know my ways. Ah.

18:20.25
Alex
To the regimen of things the regiment of academia and things like that and I used to feel really guilty about that. But now I’m older I’m just like well it doesn’t mean that says for me. Yeah, this is who I am. Let’s just live with it deal with it I haven’t even learned to drive because of this reason because of the thought of spending weeks learning I’m just like can we can. We not do it in a week can we do it in a day. Perhaps.

19:08.42
charukaarora
Um I Love this I Love this This is nonsense for me I Love this attitude. No shit’s given because that’s all we need.

19:20.17
Alex
Ah, ah, yeah, yeah, it’s just it’s just the way I am it’s just and I’ve learnt to live with that and use that as ah, um, more of a strength rather than a hindrance like. But yeah I did I did a foundation but I was really really lucky to have been taught by some absolutely amazing teachers. You know that were creating themselves and winning awards and getting into exhibitions and stuff and my tutor Richard cross at the time I mean he still. Submitting work and winning awards and everything and every time after college when I used to run into him as well like when I’d left. He’d give me like a nugget of advice and I’d be like oh I’m taking that. Thank you pike still even though I’ve left. So yeah I was looking essence sense and then I just kind of.

20:27.10
charukaarora
Um, and.

21:00.31
Alex
Ah, started doing my thing and originally I started doing Portrait work because that’s that’s what I used to love doing is portraiture. But then I was like it’s really stale what I’m doing and because you know I lacked the education and I didn’t really know how to take that further and.

21:08.56
charukaarora
Okay.

21:25.92
charukaarora
Yeah. Um, yeah.

21:39.77
Alex
So just started I was like I really want to start doing my own stuff and it just coincided with the fact that my youngest started painting all over work anyway. So I’d be doing portraits of people and my daughter would come along and like add a really nice. You know.

21:46.24
charukaarora
Yes.

22:07.30
charukaarora
Oh my God who.

22:08.39
Alex
Deep blue or something all over the canvas and everywhere else and I’d be like this isn’t gonna work and but she should bless her. She has quite a renaisanceance look quite a creepy Renaissance look so I was like I’m gonna take photos of you and start doing stuff digitally and I started taking photos of her.

22:36.64
charukaarora
No one.

22:46.29
Alex
And making them into collages digitly and that’s how what I’m doing now kind of began really like yeah just I kind of changed around my situation thinking that painting’s not going to happen with a small child.

22:57.70
charukaarora
Today? yeah. Um, yeah.

23:18.59
Alex
I mean cats often The moms that do it but it wasn’t working for mine. Um, yeah now I get to do both. You’re sorry gone? Yes, yeah yeah I I think I think both.

23:22.56
charukaarora
Ah, yes, yes, so today you work? Yeah, that’s what I was asking today. You do both? How has that.

23:55.79
Alex
You know both both what I learned in the past and you know obviously being taught in a traditional way to paint because my dad as well taught me how to paint very traditionally you know acrylics and oil paints and staff. Um, and I was very lucky to have that education as well to look at old masters and whatever you and be very influenced by that.

24:19.80
charukaarora
Okay.

24:35.23
Alex
And then obviously you’ve got the tech side and now I can merge both of them so I can do mixed media pieces or I use like Photoshop to sketch out a piece and then paints it. You know I can use like a myriad of techniques and I’m always learning as well. I’m always learning new. New things to to push what I’m doing.

25:19.34
charukaarora
But what about um this let’s say you has the creative influence because your father um and you know you know you had your own creative instincts. How about. The business side of the work making there’s None thing that you be as an artist you make the work another whole ball game is to take your work out there to make it validated and you know I think we don’t even know like you’re saying like you you picked a very different path.

26:01.13
Alex
Yeah.

26:24.80
charukaarora
And I don’t think you would have done that intentionally you must have just 1 thing at a time and it that’s that’s how it must have happened. But um, how were you good at business. Did you have anyone like how is that part for you.

26:26.47
Alex
Oh yeah, definitely definitely.

26:50.57
Alex
Ah, ah, it’s still a huge learning curve I Called my accountant the other day panic it ah like it’s just it’s just a crazy learning curve and I I think one of the things. So with the way. My brain works is I do seem to be able to be lie. With anything I could be like you could make a business out of that you could do something with that and that’s only because I’ve learned like along the way and it and it’s how my brain works Anyway, some people say it’s a bit too much but you know, but yeah, it’s just a.

27:35.26
charukaarora
Um, learn now. Yeah yeah.

27:57.85
Alex
Ah, huge learning Curve. It’s just constantly learning and constantly um, being open to listening to people who are advising you on the way I’ve been very lucky with curators and gallery owners that I’ve worked with other artists that I’ve met. Even Community project leaders and things like that you know they’ve all taught me huge amounts about what I do and then it’s also like constantly watching kind of what other people are doing as well. So It’s kind of just you know oh that’s.

29:09.28
charukaarora
Um, yeah.

29:07.79
Alex
Quite a cool idea. That’s a good idea or you know, but sometimes ideas you know for business or marketing or things like that I just think I have one of those brains and sometimes they just happen to I’ll be cooking tea or you know having a shower or some and I’ll be like oh that’ll be a really good idea. Let’s give that a go. Let’s try that.

29:36.56
charukaarora
Yes.

29:46.70
Alex
Um, and my husband’s from a graphic design. He’s a graphic designer. Um, so he’s worked a lot with like marketing and advertising so he’ll be like oh yeah, I’ve seen that work in such a place you know.

29:52.54
charukaarora
Um, oh wow.

30:08.84
charukaarora
That’s oh wow. Okay, what how does your work and life look like today I know you have house of Alexandra okay Al Shara you you have anyone who’s listening. Can you talk about the things that you do how as an artist. What are the different things that you’re doing today. Let’s walk through that.

30:47.33
Alex
Yeah, different things I do um do I do lots of different things and so like you mentioned the house of Alexandra stuff is like the interior stuff murals and wallpaper cushions. You know teacups things like that.

30:57.36
charukaarora
Yeah.

31:17.71
Alex
Ah, because I have a huge passion for interior design and and fashion and and whatever you I can’t afford what I like but you know it’s like I love I Do love it. Um, and I love the inventiveness of things as well and I you know I.

31:22.16
charukaarora
Into it.

31:38.60
charukaarora
I.

31:47.87
Alex
Follow a lot of interior designers on places like Instagram and things like that and their inventiveness you know in their eye creativity I’m like oh wow that is that’s just beautiful and you know the places we live are homes the you know the places we go to work are very important in how they look.

31:58.74
charukaarora
Yes, ah yes.

32:23.98
charukaarora
Now.

32:24.87
Alex
Ah, for our mental Health. So I do that and then I do like commercial projects as well like businesses and companies. So I will design stuff that’s like my artwork but for their and whatever business. They’ve got. They’re always fun. Because they always push me a little as well. In the way I create Work. You know I may not have thought of yeah yeah, like I did a recent project at the moment which hasn’t launched yet but I can say it involved horses and frogs and when they said can you stick Horse and frog in it I was like I have no idea how I’m gonna make this work.

33:08.18
charukaarora
Done otherwise.

33:31.84
charukaarora
Um.

33:36.57
Alex
But ah yeah, somehow it it works. Um, but it’s that pushing that kind of you know and you’re like oh um, and then I do street art and murals and stuff as well. So I do like um streetar stuff which I let I’ll sneak off and do a paste up somewhere or I get invited to go in pain or put.

33:44.76
charukaarora
Yes.

34:13.15
Alex
A paste up somewhere and I Also do them for commercial properties and cruise ships as well. So they’ll be big, big massive walls or big massive interior areas. Um that are created and it looks like you’re in my world kind of thing and then obviously I Also. Do the prints and the paintings and everything as Well. So I try and keep it like ah keep a variety and there’s so much more that I want to do. It’s quite frustrating actually because I always say to my husband I was like a I’m not going to live long enough to do everything I want to do.

35:08.52
charukaarora
Um, yeah. Um.

35:28.99
Alex
And be like I need to win the lottery to do everything I want to do or just have like 10 of me because I have so many ideas and I love so many different genres of arts and ways of working that I just want to you know do everything play. Yeah.

35:47.60
charukaarora
Yeah.

36:05.40
charukaarora
That’s I feel you there for sure. You know what’s so what’s so fun about you I firstly I’m I’m so glad that um, that we’re talking and honestly um, there’s 1 thing that I viewed as a viewer your work.

36:07.49
Alex
I.

36:40.56
charukaarora
But knowing you and speaking to you is so much more fun and I feel like um I would have missed some things early if I have wouldn’t have had this conversation. Um, you’ve paved a very different path for yourself like you said it’s not the traditional way like someone would go.

37:03.91
Alex
Um, yeah.

37:17.50
charukaarora
Ah, was that like was this something What what I’m trying to say is like you know, have you made this a subconscious choice because you didn’t want to go that way or you couldn’t or this was something that just happened.

37:47.21
Alex
I Think it’s kind of a bit of both I think in my nature I just have ah part My nature is like you know stick to the rules and then another part my nature is like really rebellious and really kind of like why do I have to do it this way.

38:22.70
charukaarora
Yeah.

38:23.75
Alex
Don’t want to do it this way, especially if there’s like lots of time wasted and I often describe like my brain is like having 10 computer tabs open on your desktop and like a scene tune and a monologue and various other things going on. So Yeah I think in in a way. It’s kind of like. This was the easier path for me to take and because you always end up doubting yourself a lot as well and I think and it helped if I was doing it my own way my own path I’m going to learn and learn things. But I’m not going to constantly doubt myself I think by thinking I have to do it a certain way.

39:14.12
charukaarora
Um, yeah.

39:35.42
charukaarora
Um, yeah, yeah.

39:42.31
Alex
Think sometimes there are too many kind of rules but not rules that imposed dinners of how we should do things and I don’t necessarily I mean I drive I drive my husband nuts because I’m always like if you ever saw. Like why we’ve got a house and we live this way. Why we’re not like just traveling and experience things and he goes. We cannot keep having this conversation like yeah, ah my mind is one of those minds. That’s like if you ever thought about it like.

40:33.12
charukaarora
Um, um I think we are all very curious as artists about the wise white is white Why this color.

40:42.81
Alex
Little hives and things like that. So we’re all doing our job doing the you know why are we doing this. So yeah, Yes, yeah, yeah, definitely.

41:12.34
charukaarora
This image I Think that’s what we love keep digging digging in and deeper and deeper and deeper unless someone’s like you know that’s a back off That’s enough, let go.

41:34.55
Alex
Yes, yeah, stop. Yeah, stop that now. Yeah I know my parent used to drive my parents mad me always ask him why all the time as well. Like why? why? Yeah why you making me do this Why we doing these why? Yeah yeah, so I think.

41:48.86
charukaarora
Um, yes, same year like sometimes people would not tell me people like my friends and someone like they know I really need like. I I would ask a None questions before you know they would want me to do something and I also have this like um if someone’s really told me to do this So my natural instinct would be probably not to do it.

42:51.65
Alex
Ah, yeah I.

42:56.94
charukaarora
So I I have tried I have tried to become more generous and give them a chance that if you convince me that I should do this tell me why.

43:09.69
Alex
Ah, yeah, my husband’s actually too like that Actually before we do anything. It’s like there’s got to be whole spreadsheet business plan. Everything like why are we doing this? Ah right.

43:23.54
charukaarora
Um, no, and not even like rationally for me my why My why doesn’t come from logic. My voice come from emotions. Why do you want me to do this. How is it like like you know and it’s it’s like sometimes people.

43:38.13
Alex
Yeah, like I’m like that. Yeah yeah.

44:03.14
charukaarora
They like my partner is like you know, a lot of times he will. He would be like he wouldn’t even Tell Me’ll be like I would want don’t want to go down that roads I’d rather take you there and top you that answer those questions at all.

44:32.15
Alex
But I think that kind of cut from being like an independent woman though as well and not just kind of going with stuff and and questioning stuff I think yeah I think to have a curious mind sometimes is a good thing that you’re not just going.

44:37.86
charukaarora
Um, yes, that’s true. Um, I think that’s that’s also the gift of creativity in being an artist I Love that about it. Okay, you also mentioned your work. Ah youth that means.

45:04.67
Alex
Yes, definitely definitely.

45:29.98
charukaarora
I’m still digesting this fact. So let me absorb it. You’ve built this career while you were a mom of young children and you’ve you’ve you’ve not build it in a way that you knew. Okay, these are the steps and you know that’s how people have done it. That’s how I can do it.

45:30.97
Alex
Yeah, um, yeah.

46:00.61
Alex
Um, yeah, yeah.

46:06.88
charukaarora
Really figure things out for yourself. Let’s talk about the struggles that you’ve had and how did you what? what was one of the biggest trouble I think you you had in building the career that you have to take.

46:25.65
Alex
I Think the biggest thing is probably just getting you work out there I think that is the biggest thing and people liking it and notice it and being able to make a living from it as well. I think there’s a.

46:49.36
charukaarora
Um, yeah.

46:52.67
Alex
Because sometimes can be a perception that you create something art-wise and then you’ll be able to so you know it’ll go mental and you’ll be able to sell it for loads and it’s nice just like a lot of hard work and it’s very much having that kind of.

46:58.66
charukaarora
And it goes. Yeah.

47:22.41
Alex
Belief and dedication to kind of do that. There was a few times when the kids were small where I was like maybe I should just get a 9 to 5 job and then I’m like I’m not qualified for anything like yeah yeah I can run a bar I can pull a pin that’s about it so I was like.

47:37.52
charukaarora
Quick. Yeah.

47:54.54
charukaarora
Here.

47:57.85
Alex
What what to do and then it was actually my husband that was like no keep going keep going with this I believe in you keep going and then it also fit round both. My children are autistic so it fit around that as well. It fit round being able to be. You know that full-time full-time Mom and.

48:06.16
charukaarora
Ah, that’s so nice.

48:19.24
charukaarora
Um, how are with them. Yeah, yeah.

48:34.45
Alex
You know, regardless of whether they paint on my work it fit around that. So I think that was probably the tricky bit was just yeah, just getting building up that momentum where people um, valued your work enough that you know which I still find humbling and amazing Now that people like.

49:07.74
charukaarora
Um, yeah.

49:11.19
Alex
Ah, stick your work on a wall I really like that you know. So yeah, that was tricky and obviously tricky but with’ve being um obviously a mum is not being able to travel about and and go to places and go to preview shows and um I mean I started out working a lot in London that’s where most of my work was and.

49:31.56
charukaarora
Um, yeah.

49:45.94
charukaarora
Um, yeah.

49:50.45
Alex
So that became very tricky. Obviously so I was always the artist that nobody ever saw nobody knew what I looked like and yeah say.

50:00.98
charukaarora
Um, yes, are you not also a lot on the internet By the way, you’re also not on the internet. But so yeah, you still the artist who’s not seen a lot though your work is seen a lot.

50:11.55
Alex
Pardon say like I sorry know yeah, and yeah I think so was saw a photo of maybe a day. Not so long back and they’re like oh my god you look so different. How I expect you to look. And I was like all right? But yeah I don’t I’m not None for having my photo taken I think I’m just that I get so shy and I end up like as soon as there’s a camera front of my face I ends up like doing a double chin and just looking a bit odd because of sheer fright that you know.

51:23.56
charukaarora
You know you look like a 23 year old right? You do know that.

51:23.59
Alex
Like it’s gonna take my soul or something. Yeah, ah ah yeah, just I’m just not not big on the photos. They don’t think they I think that’s probably a confidence thing I think yeah I feel quite confident. Yeah now I think I feel confident in like my work and everything. But.

51:48.42
charukaarora
Oh you’ve done such amazing things. Yes, yeah, yeah, absolutely what do you think has been um, something like you know.

52:03.35
Alex
I Think physically it’s different I think we all have that though don’t we yeah.

52:26.78
charukaarora
My question is quite opposite of what I asked you before like your biggest struggle you’ve done quite a few things I want to ask what has been your biggest trend or something that’s None pivotal reason or something one something that you did. That’s really helped you build this career today.

53:01.45
Alex
Oh that’s a tough one I don’t know I don’t know. Yeah, that’s because it’s always been I’m one of those peoples well that never looks back. So it’s all been bit by bit I think I was taking a lot more seriously one I come like None place in like a sarie show down and had my work in asarchi that was quite early on.

53:21.54
charukaarora
Yes.

53:34.26
charukaarora
Yes.

53:41.30
Alex
And then approaching galleries and step it made it a lot easier so I would always advise artists to enter like competitions and things like that I mean you’re not guaranteed to get in. Obviously there’s more rejection than there is you know? um.

53:49.20
charukaarora
Yeah.

54:04.32
charukaarora
Yeah.

54:16.97
Alex
Ah, think of the word there but you knew and mean being being successful. Yeah, acceptance. Um, so yeah I was seeing a lot more seriously than and then yeah, so I think it’s just been incremental as I’ve gone along and with the people that I’ve met really and each each time I’ve.

54:25.18
charukaarora
Acceptance? Yeah yeah.

54:49.84
charukaarora
Um, yeah.

54:54.37
Alex
I’ve met somebody or or done something. It’s kind of moved my work into a different place or I’ve learned more and I mean the style of work that I’m doing at the moment with the females and the birds and flowers I mean that just that came about from a friend in a wedding present and he said he liked Magpie and swans.

55:18.44
charukaarora
Um, yeah.

55:31.80
charukaarora
Oh wow.

55:31.87
Alex
And could I make him something and I hit on this like new way of working and I wanted to move away from the surreal Landscapes because quite a lot of people were doing those and and I was like I think I found my thing you know like and I always say to this friend as I like you’re the reason I’m doing what I’m doing it the way when you know.

56:04.32
charukaarora
Um.

56:10.97
Alex
So yeah, and then you know I meet um artist Haley Welsh and doing the street art festival and doing street art with her. She was the one that got me doing street art and um, brought me into that world and I met more people and yeah, so yeah, it’s always meeting.

56:30.32
charukaarora
Okay.

56:50.16
charukaarora
Um, yeah, yeah.

56:48.49
Alex
New people or people giving you a chance saying you know I really like your work can you do something for me and so yeah I don’t think there’s 1 thing that I would say is like a triumph plus I’m one of those people.

57:11.16
charukaarora
Keep going I think Also I think what you would you just said that in spite of everything you just kept on going with whatever you had.

57:25.53
Alex
Yeah that’s it I think that’s the biggest thing is just keep going and just keep like one day at a time and I think that’s what I always advise to other people as well when they ask me is like I’m like just keep going have a thick skin keep going and you know. Believe in yourself. yeah yeah I think you got to fake it sometimes fake it so you make it as they say sometimes where you just.

58:05.52
charukaarora
And the hardest thing I think most of us. Yeah I think we’re all yeah, we’re all I think we’re all seeking I think as artists also but in general. Also we’re all seeking validation from others. But.

58:32.79
Alex
Yeah, what.

58:39.88
charukaarora
The most important thing that I think with over one hundred interviews I’ve done so far. Um, ah my own work or in in general I think um what I see what I see in common is a lot of those people have had this have had that validation from themselves more than.

59:15.13
Alex
Yeah.

59:19.26
charukaarora
Someone else I Think once you have that validation from within is when things start to change for you or this talk once you start doubting yourself.

59:30.73
Alex
Yeah, definitely definitely I think you’ve definitely got to believe in yourself and not put yourself down so much. It’s it’s like that thing isn’t it like everyone believes that 1 negative comment out of 100 positive comments about them and focus on that and I think sometimes.

59:56.82
charukaarora
Ah, yes.

01:00:07.89
Alex
You can get trapped in that negativity or that you know lack of confidence and I see that in people people that are incredibly talented and they’ve not done anything with it because they’re doubt in themselves and I think you’ve got to kind of just it’s not so much having faith in yourself, but just kind of.

01:00:30.62
charukaarora
Yes.

01:00:42.81
Alex
Changing it to a positive way of thinking and being like and if it brings you joy then why not do it. You know if creating brings you joy then go ahead and do it and always create because it brings you joy and then that’s positive and you can put it out there.

01:00:54.66
charukaarora
Yeah, it’s. Yeah, know, yeah and I think what I’ve also learned I think something that’s that I’ve always been now I’m constantly trying to change about my own thought is that a lot of that fear comes from um. The idea of this permanency I think when I’m afraid of something most of the times I think like what if this happens what if I fail or what if something goes wrong and something I Really love what my partner always explains to me because I’m an overthinker and he’s like you know what.

01:01:53.37
Alex
What mean.

01:02:19.20
charukaarora
Even if you feel it you you will Even if you lose that money. You will always have a chance to earn that back again because I don’t have I don’t have children I don’t have those responsibilities right now. So um I can still take those risks or there is no always if if all of these decisions that I’m making are.

01:02:25.87
Alex
Um, yeah.

01:02:54.38
charukaarora
If I can press and undo and maybe you know, go back to where I was like if I can still do that do that? Then why not take the plant and see if it works for you If not, you can always go back from where you came.

01:03:12.89
Alex
Yeah, definitely I I think yeah I think that’s important very steward. So I think it’s what that old mantra where you’ve got to fail to succeed like you’ve got it. Yeah, you’ve got to keep failing until you succeed and each time you fail. It’s just a learning opportunity. It’s just and you know you just got to try different things. Nobody.

01:03:30.82
charukaarora
None

01:03:52.57
Alex
Wake up one morning goes to know what I can play the guitar I’m an absolute rock star. They’ve got to keep practicing and practicing and failing and failing until they mustered that instrument and it’s the same with anything I think that we do I mean I’m.

01:03:59.44
charukaarora
Yes.

01:04:21.12
charukaarora
Um, yeah.

01:04:23.77
Alex
I’m quite lucky that I’m not really that much of an overthinker about most things some things usually it lights 3 in the morning you know where everything this seems way worse than it should be ah like I don’t know why and but yeah, yeah, but and on on the whole I’m not.

01:04:32.70
charukaarora
Oh um.

01:04:46.16
charukaarora
Um, you need to meet my brain. So.

01:05:01.19
Alex
Really an overthinker overthinker I’m more likely to just jump in but that has got me into trouble when I haven’t thought about something properly. But yeah, you’ve you’ve just got to roll with it I think sometimes I think you’ve just got to see what happens.

01:05:11.68
charukaarora
Go yeah and and oh about okay, None another question that comes to my mind is. Um, I think a lot of events. You’ve you’ve built a great career out of the internet you’ve and thanks to internet a lot of artists have found a way to reach their audience to build a life a successful life of a life of abundance for them. But a lot of people.

01:06:04.77
Alex
Yeah.

01:06:26.42
charukaarora
Struggle with this question of oh I’m shy um on the internet and you know I can’t put myself out there and like you said like that’s surprising you. There’s very little of you on the internet but you still you still built something so substantial and.

01:06:30.17
Alex
Um.

01:06:49.41
Alex
Here.

01:07:04.22
charukaarora
Um, amazing out of it. Um, how is your relationship as an invert and as a shy person been with the internet and then how do you like? how do how are you do because you’re you’re killing it. You’re on the internet your your work is all over there. So how are you manage that.

01:07:28.81
Alex
Thank you? Um I think ah I don’t know I used to always think that um I wasn’t that Interesting. So ah, people want to see my arts not not me. And then Pe kept saying no, we really want to. We really want to talk to you really want to know what you’ like and things like that I’m like really really, it’s It’s not that I’m I’m not that cool I’m not bohit. You know Bohemian kind of out there I’m and there and I am incredibly shy in that sense. Um, and when I first got asked to do like interviews or anything like that I I would absolutely panic like I would be terrified I remember doing a radio interview once and I brought my children just for comfort like so and my husband because I I was absolutely terrified.

01:09:17.52
charukaarora
Um.

01:09:18.21
Alex
But the more I’ve done like you know radio or interviews or Tv or anything like that I just switch off now I don’t even think about it now and I think that’s because I’ve got more confidence in myself. But yeah I always just think it’s like I recently joined Tiktok and started sharing like video clips and stuff of me painting.

01:09:34.60
charukaarora
Um, yeah, yeah.

01:09:54.64
charukaarora
Oh wow.

01:09:57.95
Alex
And yeah, my daughter’s like oh you should do like you should show yourself shoot and my daughter’s like if people knew what you were like you’re so funny like people would think it was great. You know and I’m like no I’m not ready for I think it’s too much I Think for me, it’s too much vulnerability if that makes.

01:10:15.92
charukaarora
Really love that.

01:10:29.20
charukaarora
Too much? Yeah, yeah, absolutely private right? That’s amazing.

01:10:33.23
Alex
Makes sense I like to keep part of me private and I am the kind of person that will do something stupid and get canceled or like become a meme or something So I’m like let’s not do that.

01:11:08.88
charukaarora
Um, but you know what what I started loving about the internet is like you know I think honestly I would have like I said this before also if I wouldn’t have had the chance to do this call with you. I really would have missed something out of you like your work of course is None part but who you are as a person when I talk to you I love that I’m I’m loving this conversation I’m I’m loving to get to know you and you know internally. Um.

01:11:52.41
Alex
Um, yeah.

01:12:07.21
Alex
Thank you.

01:12:17.38
charukaarora
This This’s one part of the picture when I saw your work and you know what you do now for. So that’s how my brain works like you know this is one part of picture and then there’s another part of picture where let’s say I’m trying to connect the dots. Oh that’s how it makes sense. Oh that’s that’s why she does this like you know.

01:12:33.41
Alex
Yeah. Um, yeah.

01:12:53.60
charukaarora
And then also having a voice to a work and like it becomes an experience then just loving or liking someone’s work.

01:13:04.21
Alex
Yeah, yeah, I get what you’re saying yeah and I do it is something that I get pulled up about quite a lot but I’m not like that giving in in a um me as a person attached to my work kind of thing if that makes sense I’m not I don’t. Yeah, say a lot about me as a person like unless we’re doing an interview like this obviously. But yeah I do get Yeah I do get that like people are always like oh we want snow more. Let’s know you.

01:13:51.20
charukaarora
Um, yeah.

01:14:08.34
charukaarora
Okay, what’s coming up for you. What are you looking forward to what says like is there something that you’re working on um, a new I don’t know I feel like you must have something. Some secret project going on that we don’t know about yet.

01:14:38.69
Alex
Ah, yeah, there’s been a couple of commercial ones that can’t say anything about yeah and but for my own personal work I’m trying to start working on a new body of work that’s going to be mostly originals and some prints I’m gonna be doing.

01:14:50.18
charukaarora
Yeah.

01:15:14.41
Alex
Ah, new series of prints as well based on astrology these ones I thought yeah um I’d quite like to do kind of an astrology thing but not in the usual kind of symbolism of astrology. It’d be like there was symbolism of personality traits ah with those rather than you know a ball for tourists or something like that.

01:15:18.68
charukaarora
Okay.

01:15:53.40
charukaarora
Um, yeah.

01:15:54.50
Alex
Um, ah, but the the main thing is just concentrating on a new body worker want to create something a bit more serious that’s from more of a feminist point of view. Um, a lot of my work’s feminist anyway or it’s very much entrenched in nature and mother Earth and the cosmos and spirituality and but yeah, the new work I Want to kind of just take you to kind of a bit of a level and everything but obviously.

01:16:46.54
charukaarora
Um, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

01:16:49.33
Alex
I Mean these things take time. Don’t they creating a new body of work. So yeah, that’s what I’m kind of doing in the background amongst like commissions and and various other things. But I’m finding exciting I make I’m finding it exciting try in because I want to change up.

01:17:12.76
charukaarora
Um, yeah.

01:17:25.83
Alex
Style a little bit not too much but a little bit just push it a little push it a little bit so there’s gonna be a lot of me failing and so until I get to that point where I’m like yeah no this works I’m happy with it I Just want to yeah, just try and push myself really um and see what more I can do.

01:17:30.34
charukaarora
Um, oh wow.

01:17:45.00
charukaarora
Ah, um, yeah, what? yeah go ahead? No no.

01:18:05.53
Alex
Like I love doing the go on sorry as could say I love doing the birds and flowers stuff and and the college stuff that I do and but I want yeah my creative process is still mainly using photoshop to sketch and and using found imagery.

01:18:23.18
charukaarora
What is your creative process like right now.

01:18:43.85
Alex
Ah, love using found Imagery Um, and sometimes I’ll create the elements myself as well and then mix it all together because I find that it works best for the way my brain works it. Yeah I can move things about and everything if I’ve said numerous times for if I use a sketchbook I Either don’t finish.

01:19:03.18
charukaarora
Works and um.

01:19:24.14
charukaarora
Um, yeah, yeah.

01:19:22.11
Alex
What I’m doing or um, it looks a little contrived you know like it’s a bit. Ah, it’s Lost. It’s it’s Punch. It’s lost its vibe. So a photoshop I found as a really good tool to be able to kind of go kind of. Go with the flow organically at the same time as getting out what’s in my head and just moving stuff about.

01:20:06.22
charukaarora
Yeah, and what about your original. How do you then work on your originals.

01:20:16.17
Alex
If they are mixed media then I use a ah combination of digital print and paint so it’ll be the digitally on wood or Aluminian canvas and they’ll just it won’t be all the paints in it’ll just be parts of it.

01:20:44.76
charukaarora
Um, yes, yeah.

01:20:49.35
Alex
And then I paint into it as well and try and make it pop a bit more an ad embellishments and you know gold glitter stitching whatever and but if it’s a canvas or a mural that’s painted then I usually kind of scale it up and then paint like.

01:21:03.84
charukaarora
Um, yeah.

01:21:23.47
Alex
The traditional way like from scratch but that takes me a long time I yeah it takes forever.

01:21:27.66
charukaarora
Yeah, loved um and done something like when you approach your work. Do you like? is it very, It’s more instinctive or um, you have a plan or you work. Like you work on that before and then you know you go take the jump.

01:22:10.51
Alex
It’s.

01:22:20.19
Alex
It’s usually instinctual everything I do art wise is usually very instinctual I find it very hard sometimes if I’ve been given. Like if I do a commercial job and I’m list I have a list of things that it needs to you know and it has to look like and and I find that very difficult because it it kind of I Just yeah and it ends up looking a bit kind of.

01:22:52.20
charukaarora
Um, live yeah.

01:23:04.43
Alex
Really bad, heavy metal t-shirt artwork or something like that a bit too emo and I’m like no this is not the vibe I was going for those are great in that genre. But um I don’t need that and so yeah, can struggle bit. It’s very very um.

01:23:11.92
charukaarora
Are.

01:23:34.93
Alex
Organic and visceral the way I do things and I think that’s why I relate more to like the surrealism because it is just very yeah, it’s very organic just the I’ve said that word way too much have an eye organic. Highly new word. Ah.

01:23:40.12
charukaarora
Um, yeah, your walk is yeah.

01:24:09.60
charukaarora
Ah, then and then how do you find your inspiration like how do how how you build these magical fantasy kind of walls in your work and I’m thinking.

01:24:11.50
Alex
But yeah, it’s just it it I’ll just go with the flow.

01:24:46.40
charukaarora
How does your mind work. How would you even imagine like um, how do you find these ideas and inspiration. No no I am for sure there for it.

01:24:48.93
Alex
I Don’t think anyone wants to know. Ah, ah yeah I I Well I’m obviously I look at a lot of art and I love all the old masters and everything but I I. Just live and breathe us. So I am that contrived person and and I’m always constantly looking at art and fashion even music you know or graphic design interior anything that’s creative I’m constantly absorbing it and constantly see.

01:25:33.70
charukaarora
Um.

01:26:00.97
Alex
And I think sometimes as well. Accidentally it will go in my work you know and sometimes you know you do the work and then you’re like you’re flying along and then you’re on Instagram or something you’re like oh my word, why does that look like you know and like I kind of call.

01:26:07.96
charukaarora
Um, yeah, Oh yeah. Um, yeah, like.

01:26:30.97
Alex
Ah, some art at the moment the age of Googleism This is the era of googleism because people are so influenced by each other artwise you like you know like we’ve got modernism and surrealism This is googleism I think yeah.

01:26:41.74
charukaarora
Um, yes.

01:26:58.14
charukaarora
Um, yes I love that term Oh my God Yeah, this is what it was called Oh my god.

01:27:09.99
Alex
Ah, yeah, yeah I think when we look back, We’ll be like yeah this is the era. Yeah yeah I tomed it first.

01:27:37.34
charukaarora
I can’t believe how fun it is to talk to and I can’t believe we’re talking for the None time. Okay, let’s go to the rapid fire are you ready? Okay, let me pull my questions together here. We go.

01:27:51.67
Alex
Okay.

01:28:16.00
charukaarora
Okay, 1 2 3 1 thing you want to convey through your work in the arts.

01:28:27.21
Alex
So like I sorry I totally mean I totally missed like question I was still on one 2 3

01:28:51.13
Alex
Ah, me ah, could you say that again, please sorry.

01:28:57.98
charukaarora
Yeah, no problem. 1 thing you want to convey through your work in the arts.

01:29:05.87
Alex
And probably convey of connection human connection.

01:29:18.14
charukaarora
Um, okay, what’s that 1 word that describes you the past I know by now.

01:29:26.11
Alex
Ah I don’t know quirky a bit old.

01:29:47.58
charukaarora
Ah, go ahead. Tell me 1 word. Yes, you got that right.

01:29:52.63
Alex
Ah, quirky I think probably yeah I’ve grown so accepts it.

01:30:13.38
charukaarora
Um, if you could if you could have a studio anywhere in the world where it where would it be.

01:30:27.75
Alex
Oh that is a tough one. Oh Wow I think I would have a traveling studio I would have a studio that I could travel around the world that would be my ultimate dream and the thing that I pes to my husband’s about the most is like getting a van and traveling around the world creating. Yeah.

01:30:43.98
charukaarora
Um, oh Wow. So.

01:31:05.50
charukaarora
Packs everything up and let’s go I’m sure you’ll do that I’m sure you’ll do that. Let me know once you’re doing that? Yes, please do I’ll come meet you I’ll.

01:31:06.81
Alex
Yeah, yeah, is his worst nightmare yeah fingers crossed. Yeah I’ll come meet you.

01:31:38.52
charukaarora
Probably I’ll do the I’ll do the same someday. Not a day though your biggest source of inspiration.

01:31:51.97
Alex
Um, people people I think yes, who’s my what sorry femet. Oh Jenny Saville yeah absolutely adore her work. Yeah I love it.

01:32:02.00
charukaarora
But that who’s your favorite woman artist any point of time Favorite moment artist. Yeah love pay. Ah None Who’s your vote to person when you’re in trouble or in need of advice I Yeah I guess that by now I’m sure I’m sure your husband has been extremely intentional and he wants to make sure that either.

01:32:34.13
Alex
My husband usually because he’s bailing me out. Yeah.

01:33:08.12
charukaarora
Any trouble you go to him first because he he needs to make sure ah or an advice because he wants to make sure you’re not selling everything off and getting that studio. But how fun would that be a surprise.

01:33:07.43
Alex
Yeah, yeah, it’s definitely.

01:33:26.13
Alex
Yeah, ah yeah, definitely definitely run it past Tim first it’d be so good. yeah yeah I did do that actually with them I did.

01:33:47.84
charukaarora
Ah, Surprise studio.

01:33:53.41
Alex
Ah, kind of surprised him with it was like a cruise to Iceland and Norway and only after I found out that he has fear great fear of masses of water like and I’d put him on a ship. Already has a fear of heights. So the balcony room we had that was really high up and then just masses of water.

01:34:20.36
charukaarora
Um, good. My God So That’s that’s no moment of Relief. There’s always still when you’re around with him. You make his life. You make his world go around.

01:34:50.37
Alex
Yeah, that’s what I tell him I’m the light of his life I make it more interesting.

01:35:05.24
charukaarora
Oh my god that’s so fine. Love that oh my god okay um, what has been your favorite moment as an artist anything any moment that you feel very like that you keep close to your heart. You cherish a lot. That makes you feel grateful for doing what you’re doing today.

01:35:42.41
Alex
Oh ah I think it I I think it’s not 1 thing I think it’s the fact that I’ve been able to build a life and a lifestyle around the way I want it to be and and be able to be supportive to my kids and my husband and.

01:36:09.84
charukaarora
Yeah.

01:36:20.65
Alex
You know I I feel incredibly privileged and incredibly lucky and to do what I do to be able to create pictures and that other people like or connect to and yeah I love that That’s the most humbling best thing yeah makes my hearts thing.

01:36:53.26
charukaarora
I Love that? Yes, it’s It’s even it’s music to my ears as well. I think it’s always is always inspiration to see any other woman also creators artists.

01:36:59.89
Alex
I’m like you. Yeah.

01:37:26.98
charukaarora
Living that life because we all know that feeling we all, We all really know what it feels to have a life from our own to live a creative life I Think that’s it’s one of the best feelings in the word.

01:37:28.25
Alex
Yeah.

01:37:48.50
Alex
Yeah, definitely definitely and I think it’d be amazing to see more people being creative just in their daily lives I think it would make them. Ah yeah, like yeah, there’s a lot of people out there that very talented whether it’s music or literature arts and.

01:38:00.66
charukaarora
Yes, absolutely if you’re inspiring so many? Yes, yes.

01:38:20.35
Alex
I think it would be instead of getting bogged down I think with the everyday like bit more creativity.

01:38:28.28
charukaarora
Yeah, know, yeah, we’re all doing our part size aunt we lovely if you were to meet this is interesting I’m interested now if you were to meet younger Alexandra today.

01:38:37.13
Alex
Yeah, yeah.

01:38:58.57
Alex
Yeah, stop being a dick kid. But no I mean the biggest fit I Think the biggest thing would be to have faith in myself and not to settle because you don’t think you’re good enough I think.

01:39:05.52
charukaarora
What advice would you give up.

01:39:36.83
Alex
That would be the biggest thing I tell her to yeah have faith and that you can achieve things and you can do things you know? Yeah yeah I think that would be the biggest thing.

01:39:55.18
charukaarora
Yeah, yeah, love that love that okay shadow to an artist. You’re currently loving on social media. Come.

01:40:11.55
Alex
Oh there’s so many. That’s a tough but I’m really on the spot now because now I’ve just got loads of people in my brain like and my mind I know my mind just went blank with everybody’s name as well. But.

01:40:32.64
charukaarora
You’re allow more than one go ahead? Yes I get that a lot. Ah you know Also I think it’s also like you We have the moment I feel like that’s how I visualize looks up a very visual person like.

01:40:48.51
Alex
It just went blank.

01:41:11.40
charukaarora
Whenever I ask someone this question they will have like the feet scrolling and those likes and save button being clicked and they can imagine the picture but they can’t recall the name. It had below.

01:41:20.35
Alex
Yeah, yeah, I’m the same with music as Well. Like I listened to such a wide variety of music everything from like classical and opera right through to hip hop and garage and drum and bass and I listen to whole gamut Stuff. And ah, but if anyone was to ask me what I was actually listening to I was like ah don’t know home to I I’m just fibing with the beat right now like yeah yeah I find it i’dden terrible at remembering names even my own sometimes I have been caught out with my own as well.

01:42:08.94
charukaarora
Um, and so.

01:42:34.43
Alex
Ah, people is like what’s your name and I’m like I don’t know right now.

01:42:42.66
charukaarora
Do you remember the name of your own works. Always no thank God Thank God Yes, thank God I’m not alone.

01:42:46.31
Alex
No I don’t no no I have to look on my website and double check. Yeah I thought it was just me. Ah.

01:43:19.74
charukaarora
Um, and I’m like you know so many times I have had if there’s there’s a book work I pull out and then then bring it back after some time I’m like what did I call it then and I’m like Chuck it I don’t feed it the same way I don’t even I or even if I remember or found it somewhere I’m like. You know I kind of don’t feel that way anymore and then I’m like let it go say yeah, it’s artistic to something fraud. Okay, tell me artist on social media.

01:43:54.33
Alex
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely definitely. Yeah.

01:44:15.21
Alex
Ah, well I’m really living in Lizzie Coles I think work at the moment she draws a lot of portraiture pencil portrait work but her skills are absolutely mad like she’s so good and I’ve just.

01:44:40.62
charukaarora
Oh Wow I Have to check that out.

01:44:48.15
Alex
Yeah, I’m just in exhibition with her in the moment actually like a little exhibition that’s plants and art and everything and it’s the None time that we’ve exhibited together. But yeah, she has seriously good skills I’m so envious and she’s so lovely as well. But yeah I’m seriously envious.

01:45:05.20
charukaarora
Oh wow.

01:45:19.26
charukaarora
Oh um, okay as a woman creator an artist a creative entrepreneur First one advice that you would like to give to other artists who are listening to this episode who are you know. Look up to you. We’re coming behind you starting like you know in different places. What’s that one piece of advice that you’d like to share with us.

01:46:06.70
Alex
I think like I said before just keep trying and don’t be scared to fail just keep failing and keep trying and ah work really hard. That is the biggest thing you know you’ve got to work hard and have a thick skin. And don’t believe everything that everybody tells you about your work if you enjoy it then that the artist is subjective if just None person may hate it. But another person’s goingnna absolutely love it and is goingnna connect with them. You don’t have to do what everybody else is doing. You don’t have to follow what everyone else is you know.

01:46:47.20
charukaarora
Um, name Yeah, um.

01:47:19.16
charukaarora
Um, yeah.

01:47:18.59
Alex
Following. It’s like go by the beat E Room drum as they say but yeah have faith in yourself and yeah work hard.

01:47:33.44
charukaarora
Is oh wow I love that. That’s so nice. Oh my god thank you so much Alexandra I had so much fun I can’t even tell you how fun it was and what a surprise it was to speak to you. Ah.

01:47:40.25
Alex
A.

01:48:04.47
Alex
Ah, ah, thanks for asking me. It helps me fun. It’s when a giggle I’ve enjoyed it. Thank you.

01:48:11.64
charukaarora
Ah I Really same here. Okay, um, where can people find you um support you can you if you have anything that you would want to plug here but you know any new project any prints you know. Anything just use this space for people who love your work. Love you and would want to support you and follow you.

01:48:58.27
Alex
Ah, think I think yeah I think the main place would probably be my website and that has everything on it including connections to social media Social media. You’ll be able to see like what I’m doing or my random thoughts of that day.

01:49:23.30
charukaarora
Um, me yes, ah we need more of you on social media now.

01:49:33.37
Alex
Which don’t really amount to merch apart from any more coffee and I love my dog and but yeah, like but yeah.

01:49:56.90
charukaarora
See I didn’t know you had a dog I have 3 dogs. Oh best thing in the world. Oh wow.

01:49:56.70
Alex
Ah, dogs are wonderful. Dogs are so wonderful. Yeah yeah, he he makes eda he makes me laugh probably every day He’s just a loon.

01:50:25.38
charukaarora
I’m sure he must have had the same thing to say The only thing he’s can’t because by this I’ve I’ve guessed you you are so fun to be it out. Oh my God yes.

01:50:39.75
Alex
Oh thank you.

01:50:56.76
charukaarora
So I will link your website Anchor Instagram and other links um all the artists of alexara has mentioned in the show notes on our website so you make sure you visit them and I am again I really look forward to speaking to you soon again.

01:51:21.33
Alex
Yeah, that would be great. Thank you, Thank you.

01:51:31.78
charukaarora
Thank you.

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